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-3- specifically, just what the .additional construction costs would be which could be expected to raise the unit costs to the extent quoted by Mr. Tushie and he expressed a desire that his statement that "the 3h story retirement apartments had been only one of several proposals for that parcel which.. get larger and larger as time goes by" . Each recommendation .from the Commission to the Council had been addressed by .-the Manager under separate memorandum in the agenda packet. In his comments on the Twin City Federal request for additional ,signage, Mr . Childs reported the conditions under which the Commission had recommended approval of the request. Referring to one of the reasons the Commission members had found for reversing their first recommendation that the request be denied, Councilman Ranallo questioned whether any City institution would place TCF in a competitive disadvantage related to the electronic improvements and he wanted to know why this business should be allowed to illuminate that portion of its sign which advertises its services up until 1 :00 A.M. , when another businessman just down the street had been taken to court because he had not turned off his lights at 8:00 P .M. The Councilman foresaw the establishment of a precedent for other businesses in the same area to add to their existing signage as well . Councilman Enrooth recalled that the beauty shop and Zantigo' s had been required by the City to turn off their signs when they closed for business and -the. -1-: 00 A-.M-.---turnof fl time for-- the bank had� actually represented a compromise since the cash machines a're available all night long. Mr. Childs responded by saying the beauty shop signage was only temporary and the time restrictions on illumination had been placed as a condition for permitting the sign at all and reason #2 represented the fact that St. Anthony' s sign ordinance is perceived to be more restrictive than other municipal ordinances . Pl'anning Commission members Judy Makowske and Doug Jones were present for the discussion and the latter said that, although he believed Councilman Enrooth ' s point had been well taken , he personally could not see where the additional signage was necessary at all since he perceives there could be an adverse effect on the homeowner directly behind the bank if people are encouraged to use the electronic machines all night long. He said the motor noises and flashing headlights could be a real annoyance for the residents of that area . Jim Stahlmann, 2446 East lst Avenue , North St. Paul, was presented TCF',s� response to the comments which had been made. He indicated Dave Shannon, the sign company representative who .had appea'red before the 'Commission, was out of town that evening. Mr. Stahlmann indicated he perceived,, the .message the bank is requesting be added -to the time and . temperature -information it provides the public is .unique in that it - represents the- common :symbol. -TCF uses as. identification on all their facilities throughouit .the metropolitan area and at the ,same time , advertises- a: -gervice available not only to- TCF customers 'but customers �of ,-oth6r banking facilities who are in. the same electronic..,banking system-. He said with this service, , customers could get cash to patron- lie ,the -Apache Inerchants and the Zantigo restaurant during the hours the bank is c'losed. .