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REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING <br /> J A 1 u U A R Y 1 -2 1 O C 3 <br /> 3 PAGE 3 <br /> 4 <br /> 5 B. Planning Commission Meeting - December 15 , 1992 <br /> 6 <br /> 7 Commissioner Murphy was in attendance representing the <br /> 8 Planning Commission . <br /> 9 <br /> 10 1 . Comprehensive Sign Plan - 3813 Stinson Boulevard ( Stop <br /> 11 'N' Shop ) <br /> 12 <br /> 13 Owners of the Stop ' N ' Shop, James Sarna and William Vogt , <br /> 14 submitted a comprehensive sign plan for a strip mall they own <br /> 15 at 38th Avenue and Stinson Boulevard . This plan consists of <br /> 16 three elements : ( 1 ) wall signs , ( 2 ) replacement pylon sign , <br /> 17 and ( 3) ground sign for a strip mall . <br /> 18 <br /> 19 Some of these signs are already in place and were allowed to <br /> 20 stay until the new sign ordinance had received approval . This <br /> 21 ordinance defined what criteria must be met to be designated <br /> 22 as a "strip mall . " The Stop ' N' Shop station and the adjoining <br /> 23 businesses meet the criteria and the existing signage can now <br /> 24 be reconsidered under that category . <br /> 25 <br /> 26 The submitted plan also includes a request for a reader board . <br /> The City Manager stated his concerns with this reader board <br /> noting that it could impact on the surrounding neighborhood <br /> 29 and traffic as it is very large . <br /> 30 <br /> 31 Commissioner Murphy advised that the Planning Cormnission <br /> 32 viewed two sign types , B5 and B6 . Currently Mr . Sarna and Mr . <br /> 33 Vogt have a B8 type of sign which is 150 . 84 square feet at <br /> 34 their station at 33rd Avenue and Stinson Boulevard. The <br /> 35 Planning Commission did not have a rendering of a type B8 sign <br /> 36 at their meeting. <br /> 37 <br /> 38 In the fall of 1991 a variance was granted to these owners for <br /> 39 a B5 type of sign at this location which was 208 . 7 square <br /> 40 feet , had four price signs , a smaller gasoline brand sign , a <br /> 41 strip mall identification sign and six feet of ground <br /> 42 clearance . tinder the new sign ordinance, the number of price <br /> 43 signs and price sign size is not a consideration as the new <br /> 44 total sign surface area allowed is 150 square feet . <br /> 45 <br /> 46 The City Manager advised that the owners are requesting 200 <br /> 47 square foot signage and he noted that a B5 would be 190 square <br /> 48 feet . They feel a B8 sign would be too small for the site <br /> 49 although it would be in conformance with the new sign <br /> 50 ordinance . <br /> • <br />