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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes April 16, 2019 Page 4 Commissioner Neumann stated she has a few statements and then will leave the meeting. She 1 stated this is similar to a previous discussion about what is considered a deck. She stated the 2 presentations were of a strong caliber, and the residents should consider being part of the 3 Planning Commission. Commissioner Neumann recommended adding a worksession to propose 4 establishing parameters moving forward. She is concerned the 35% impervious amount is not 5 being met. The conditions created by the owner will affect the neighbors. 6 7 Commissioner Neumann left the meeting at 7:44 p.m. 8 9 Commissioner Socha asked if an exception should be made with the 5 feet because it is being 10 considered a sidewalk rather than a patio. Mrs. Wernimont stated they plan to construct a fence 11 in the spring for their own privacy. The kick outs on the sidewalk are decorative. 12 13 Commissioner Payne clarified that the existing concrete will be removed and the sidewalk will 14 be 4.9 feet. He asked how necessary the kick outs are. 15 16 Commissioner Rude stated if a sidewalk is considered to be 5 feet or less. Mr. Grittman stated 17 there is not a setback or definition relating to private sidewalks. Commissioner Rude referred to 18 the photograph and asked if there is 10 feet between the houses. Mr. Grittman stated the 19 minimum setback is five feet. 20 21 Commissioner Socha stated she understands why they want a recreational space and asked if 22 they considered wood rather than concrete. Mrs. Wernimont stated it is a modest space for a 23 table and chairs. 24 25 Vice Chair Westrick asked if the applicant considered pervious pavers or concrete that is 26 available. Mr. Grittman stated the City does not offer discount for pervious pavers. 27 28 Commissioner Socha commented there are no issues with the front yard setback. She feels the 29 definition of the sidewalk is clear. She does not feel the benefit of the sidewalk being closer than 30 5 feet is not reasonable. 31 32 Commissioner Rude stated a substantial amount of money has been spent dealing with drainage 33 in that neighborhood. To have concrete for decorative purposes is not needed. If the variance is 34 granted for the front setback would it just include the steps or could it be covered. Mr. Grittman 35 stated it would only be the steps. 36 37 Mrs. Wernimont asked if they made concessions to remove jet outs on the sides would that assist 38 in a decision being made. They are trying to make this work for everyone. Vice Chair Westrick 39 stated the Commission should continue with what is proposed. 40 41 Commissioner Socha asked if the removal of the jet outs would bring it down 14 sf. Mr. 42 Grittman stated based on the numbers, they have it appears it would be 165 sf over the 35% 43 threshold. 44 45