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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes December 15, 2020 Page 9 1 Commissioner Rude stated since he was the one who proposed the sound hours he will speak. 2 The City does limit, for example, commercial traffic, construction work and things like that by 3 hours so they do have that in the City. He was suggesting it be kept the same hours, 7:00 am 4 to 10:00 pm. He noted sound pollution is something that would be a mitigating factor. He 5 also wanted to point out that Ms. Fleming who spoke out, he read her emails and appreciated 6 those as well. He thought one of her comments was there are limits to drive-throughs and the 7 City has denied them in places in the City based on where they would be located but he did 8 not think a car wash would have a speaker that would be disturbing and did not having a 9 bearing on this item, but he wanted to point that out for Ms. Fleming. 10 11 Commissioner Neumann stated the other piece on the Ramsey County side, not only is there a 12 car wash but there is also The Unofficial and there are all sorts of residential properties around 13 there. She did not understand why this particular item is being singled out when the exact 14 same thing exists already in the City over on the Ramsey County side by the St. Anthony 15 Business Center. 16 17 Motion by Commissioner Neumann, seconded by Commissioner Rude, to recommend that the 18 City Council approve a Conditional Use Permit for a car wash facility at 2701 Kenzie Terrace, 19 with the conditions as detailed in the staff report. 20 21 Commissioner Rude indicated he would like to amend the motion to add the hours of 22 operation to be 7:00 am – 10:00 pm and that the canopy match the colors of the building. 23 24 Commissioner Neumann stated a wall or window air conditioner is approximately 85 decibels 25 and each unit at that property has one of these on their balcony. The applicant has already 26 stated he would install a canopy, so she was confused as to why the Commission is asking it 27 to be the color they want. She understood it would have to match the building because it is in 28 the City Code. The area is zoned for commercial and she did not understand why they are 29 discussing other types of businesses when that is not what is being proposed. A City study on 30 behalf of a citizen’s complaint about a hypothetical issue is going to be an undue burden to the 31 other taxpayers. She stated the responsibility for conducting that type of study is on the 32 people complaining and she did not believe it would be an appropriate action for the City to 33 undertake. 34 35 Commissioner Socha stated in response to the current motion which is to approve with the 36 two conditions that Commissioner Rude set forth, she did not support requiring the canopy to 37 match and did not think that was necessary to get that detailed. She also was just exploring 38 the option before of the decibel levels and based on the conversation that has happened and 39 the reassurances from the property owner, she did not think that was necessary. She would 40 support the motion if amended another time to just include the hour limits of 7:00 am to 10:00 41 pm, which is substantially more than what the property owner has proposed he intends to do 42 but provides some assurance that this will not be a 24-hour car wash. She would not support 43 the motion as it stands with the two amendments but would support it with the hour 44 amendment. 45 46 9