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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes <br />December 15, 2020 <br />Page 6 <br /> <br />some effect on property value. She noted she looked and confirmed that St. Anthony Code 1 <br />does state “detrimental” and not “unreasonably detrimental” or not “extremely detrimental” so 2 <br />she wondered if there was any further clarification about what “detrimental” means on 3 <br />purposes of when the City Council is supposed to grant a Conditional Use Permit because the 4 <br />if the criteria is just not detrimental at all and detrimental does not have to rise to a certain 5 <br />level, she had a hard time seeing how it would not be detrimental to some effect, to some 6 <br />point on neighboring property values. She was not so sure about health and safety but general 7 <br />use of it, which does affect the property value. 8 <br /> 9 <br />Mr. Grittman explained the citation referred to means the use will not be detrimental to the 10 <br />health, safety or general welfare of persons residing or working in the vicinity or to the values 11 <br />of property in the vicinity. This is a standard action that is mirroring the State Law related to 12 <br />Zoning in general. It is the standard of review that cities put any zoning question to and 13 <br />typically where a value in property has been an issue there has been a requirement to show 14 <br />actual evidence rather than a concern. It is something the City takes into consideration the 15 <br />best they can, but they would want to have some hard evidence before they would deny an 16 <br />application on that basis. 17 <br /> 18 <br />Commissioner Socha asked whose burden is it to provide the hard evidence. Mr. Grittman 19 <br />explained the burden would be on the people making the claim of detrimental value. 20 <br />Commissioner Socha asked how burdensome it would be for the City to initiate a study on 21 <br />that. 22 <br /> 23 <br />Commissioner Neumann expressed that she did not want her property dollars going towards a 24 <br />study on this. Mr. Grittman explained he was not aware of any situation where the City has 25 <br />undertaken, not just St. Anthony, but the City generally has undertaken that kind of a study on 26 <br />its own. He thought it would be somewhat unprecedented in his experience. 27 <br /> 28 <br />Commissioner Rude stated his take on what Commissioners Socha and Neumann have just 29 <br />commented on, in his read of the materials sent to him, he interpreted it to say that there is a 30 <br />presumption that the use is allowed on properly zoned land. In other words, this is 31 <br />commercially zoned property so the presumption is that a commercial business can be built 32 <br />there. In reading that, it almost seems like their hands are tied and if they can put reasonable 33 <br />limits on it, the City cannot stop them from a commercial building on commercial property. 34 <br />The City can only try to seek some mitigating factors to limit it. He stated this is commercial 35 <br />property and he hated to admit it but if they could build a residential property next to a 36 <br />commercial property there needs to be some expectation of this at some point. 37 <br /> 38 <br />Commissioner Rude stated in regard to noise and hours of activity, he understood that trucks 39 <br />and moving and garbage trucks are not supposed to be on the roads before 7:00 am. He 40 <br />wondered if there was some limit on sound such as between 7:00 am and 10:00 pm., that 41 <br />would affect the hours of this business to make sure they are at least contained within those 42 <br />time frames. Mr. Grittman believed there are limits to construction traffic and to other types 43 <br />of service traffic. On public roadways there would not be that kind of limitation but on 44 <br />private property, occasionally there are some limitations. He noted he was not able to site 45 <br />those at this time, but it would be his impression that the applicants proposed hours of 46 <br />6
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