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City Council Regular Meeting Minutes January 26, 2021 Page 6 1 fairly easily and can be quite loud. He would try to soundproof the car wash as best he can in 2 order to try to be the best neighbor he can. 4 Mr. Grotkin reviewed building materials and soundproofing with the Council. 6 Mayor Stille asked how the doors were made for soundproof. Mr. Grotkin explained the doors 7 will be a thinner material but should hold in the noise. 9 Mayor Stille thought if this gets built the applicant may want to re-evaluate the quality of the 10 materials for the doors. 11 12 Mayor Stille noted there were a few residents in attendance that wanted to speak. 13 14 Ms. Susan Guthrie, 2616 Paul Avenue, stated she was kind of stunned at what she just heard. 15 One of the comments was "fear of what we don't know" and that they are all going to be 16 reassured and will know something different than what they are fearing. She was not sure that 17 was fair and what she feared was that what they really have here is that no one really knows 18 anything. What they are dealing with is reasonable assessments, judgements based on 19 experience, presumptions, and nothing scientific or factual. She stated if they were in the City of 20 Minneapolis there would be environmental impact statements and there would have to be to 21 close out a CUP. The project would have to be looked at and satisfied. There is just much that 22 has not been done. Whatever was seen online was not much of what was presented tonight at the 23 meeting. It is very hard as a citizen to follow what is going on when the information that was 24 available to her outside of the Planning Commission, is basically nothing. Basically, in order for 25 a CUP to be given, existing laws regarding the impact of the project must be satisfied. She 26 indicated she was not satisfied and thought that they do need to know what the cumulative 27 decibel amount will be from all blowers and all of these vacuums going at the same time. They 28 remember that this is not far away from housing and within twenty to thirty feet of existing 29 homes. It is hard to image that along with health, safety, and general welfare, which she 30 believed is the burden of the applicant to prove it is not detrimental as opposed to the neighbors 31 having to prove that it is detrimental. All of these things are very concerning to her. She 32 guessed there are legal requirements, and this is not about guessing, this is about knowing. She 33 is pleased with certain aspects of what has been said but they have to remember that this is right 34 in the middle of housing. She explained this is a quality -of -life issue and is hard to imagine that 35 the property values will not be severely affected having that kind of noise level. If that happens, 36 that is talking about stability of neighborhoods, people moving, and the inability to walk in an 37 area. She thought this needs to be rejected at this point. If it is sent back to staff to review and 38 come up with some more definitive delineations of what the actual risk is to the neighborhood, 39 she would hope that there will be further sessions with the neighborhood. She would hope that 40 the residents could have a dialogue with the planners. She did not think that this use for the land 41 is appropriate with all of the residential surrounding it. There are many other uses that could be 42 considered. 43 44 Ms. Cary Zarhbock, 2704 27`h Avenue NE, explained she has lived at that address for 34 years 45 and love living in St. Anthony. She stated she was at the meeting on behalf of concerned 46 neighbors, herself, her husband, Gary, including the single-family homeowners on 27th Avenue