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City Council Regular Meeting Minutes March 9, 2021 Page 7 equipment works. It's a conveyor belt system that feeds the car into the wash. The exit door can be closed until the dryer is completed and the ready is to leave. Condition #9 and #10 will be fit. Condition #12 has been revised and is fully agreeable with the exception of the City telling a private business how to operate. 6 Councilmember Jenson asked if the entry doors were left open would that noise add to the 7 decibel. Mr. Messner stated the noise at the entry would be over L60. Mr. Archambault stated 8 the sound study was done on ground level and estimated at how the sound would move up the 9 five stories of the Kenzington Complex. The enter door is as far from the Complex as possible. 10 Their noise mitigation is the best they can have it. Councilmember Jenson asked if the doors 11 remain open if there are cars waiting to enter. Mr. Archambault stated that is correct and if there 12 are no cars waiting the door could be closed. 13 14 Councilmember Walker asked about Condition 48 and how comfortable is Mr. Archambault 15 regarding competition with other car washes in the area. Mr. Archambault stated there is no 16 competition in the area. Typically, it would take 2-3 minutes for a car to be washed/dried and the 17 speed is adjustable. Their system provides a quicker and better wash. 18 19 Councilmember Webster asked that the noise study with the door closest to Kenzington, the 20 sound would exceed the standard. Mr. Archambault stated if there is a line of vehicles waiting, 21 the door does not close. If the door would need to be closed and the conveyor stopped it would 22 lengthen the time and cost for energy. Councilmember Webster stated without mitigation the 23 noise levels would exceed the standard. Mr. Messner stated that is correct based on the noise 24 analysis, they would exceed the L50 State requirement. 25 26 Mr. Grittman stated in Condition #8, it was not their intent was not to shut down the conveyor 27 between cars. If the door was open, it would exceed the L50 State requirement. 28 29 Mr. Archambault this is a conveyor system and the most noise would be created by the high - 30 pressure rinse and dryer equipment. He requested a re -write of Condition #8 to remove the 31 wording that the entry door needs to be closed. Mr. Grittman stated the sound study stated the 32 noise coming out of the entry door exceeds the L50 requirement. Mr. Archambault stated the 33 study was done at Eddie's Auto Wash in Edina on equipment that is significantly older with a 34 different structure and setup. There will be dissipation of the sound. Mr. Messner stated the 35 sound leaving the facility at the dryer levels of L80 which will dissipate, was studied at six 36 different home locations and would exceed the State standard of L50. 37 38 Councilmember Jenson asked how long was Eddie's Car Wash that was modeled. Mr. Messner 39 stated he does not have that information. Councilmember Jenson stated he believes a shorter 40 facility would have a louder decibel level than a longer one. 41 42 Ms. Cary Zahrbock, 2704 27`h Avenue NE, stated she loves a clean car. She is not against car 43 washes or businesses. She has learned a lot about car washes, use permits, etc. She does not 44 believe there has been time for the community input that is necessary. She stated crime has not 45 been addressed. She said car washes are prime businesses for robbery and vandalism. The 46 landscaping can add to the vulnerability of the car wash and neighboring homes to crime. She