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page 3 Ken Tschida-Grace Development Co. SE Hugo-wanted to know how much land is needed to keep horses in the single family urban district. If you had a few acres, how far could you cut it down and still keep horses. You could keep on with horses as long as reasonable and no nuisance de- velopes, according to attorney Johnson. He said this is a legal non-con- forming use. Donna Stroman-8039 165th St.-wondered what was to be considered reasonable. She said some people think a horse is content on five acres, while someone else thinks he would be fine on one acre. Mayor Carlson stated the minimum is 10,400 square feet as far as lot size is concerned. Jerry Moore-5120 165th St.-wondered where the north line of the single family urban was located on the map. At this point, attorney Johnson stated to attorney Perry Copeland, that the proposed ordinance provides that in the granting of special use permits that any use which is not listed in the zoning ordinance must be similar in character to one or more listed as permited special uses in the district in which it is to be located if it's to obtain a special use permit. In other words, anything not listed is covered. Attorney Johnson then gave a description of the Single Family Estates and listed the principal uses, accessory uses, and special uses. Comments on that district are as follows: Dr.Chapman-12833 Goodview Ave-stated he thought each person at the hearing should have gotten a map showing precisely where his property was to be placed. He also wondered if the vote for the plan as proposed could be a general election vote rather than relying completely upon a few council members. Attorney Johnson said the provision is governed by Minnesota Sta- tutes as to the adoption of the plan and it requires that after the adop- tion of a land use plan for a municipality, the planning agency for the purpose of carrying out the policies and goals for the land use plan may prepare a proposed zoning ordinance and submit it to the governing body with its recommendations for adoption. The governing body may adopt and amend the ordinance by a two-thirds vote of all its members,and there is no provision for a referendum. Dr. Chapman- stated the planning board should be elected by the people and the council by the people and the two should not even be separate. Dr. Chapman also wanted to know why land in the south east toward White Bear was to be zoned SFE when it's all agricultural at the present time. Carl Dale stated this was based on how they thought sanitary sewer could be expanded over the years. This was based on the village engineers pro- jected sewer service area.Dr. Chapman wondered what recourse the people in that area had to keep their area from being down graded. He said it was unjust to have the north east area remain rural, when actually a green belt should be maintained between Hugo and White Bear Lake. Mayor Carlson suggested that Dr. Chapman present his views on rezoning in a formal letter to the council for their discussion on the ordinance on September 20th.Dr. Chapman mentioned he had been in planning many years in the past and commented that the plan for Hugo was a good compromise but has some fallacies. He felt the planners had "bit zoned" from the very beginning, and you should zone on people, not on sewers. He also felt this should go before the people in a vote. Theodora Peltier-Goodview Ave.-wondered what would happen to those farm- ing in the SFE district. Attorney Johnson stated that all farms in exis- tance at the passage of the zoning ordinance could be maintained as such. Mrs. Peltier also wondered why a noise clause was not put in the ordinance. Attorney Johnson said things such as this would be covered by other ordi- nances.