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1 L MINUTES REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING APRIL 12, 1978 Page 10 maybe this is the time to do it. There will be hearings of course as required by law. Under the grant statute we do have to have two public hearings, this being the first, the second being on April 26, 1978, by so doing we conform to that part of the grant fund stipulations and then we can make our preliminary request. HAROLD NILSEN I want to go .back to the time before the village 1794 Tatum was incorporated, back when it was part of Rose PAST HISTORY Township. There is a storm sewer running along Snelling Avenue, going north, I don't know just where it terminates, but at that time they had an opportunity, I think the southern terminal is someplace around just east of the shopping center, say about Crawford Avenue, but they didn't want to participate with the State of Minnesota at that time. Had they participated at that time you would have had a larger pipe than .you do now going north to take care of the storm sewer at that time. Now one of the things That Ramsey County wanted during the construction of Larpenteur Avenue back in '57 - '58 while I was on the council, was to enter into a joint agreement with Falcon Heights which would have extended that storm sewer over to Lindig and at that time, the lowest elevation back of John Keely's residence was 966, not the high water area, the ponding area is 970. It was feasible and Ramsey County would have constructed, along with our paying our fair share of course, so we could have put a storm sewer up at that time. I remember at that time how wonderful it would have been if we could have done it, but, the State of Minnesota came along with their proposed grade seperation at Snelling and Larpenteur and of course that stopped that project comple~ly. We could not run storm water east then to the Hamline Avenue county pit which ultimately goes into Lake Como, so there were two chances over the years to do something about this, the first one was lack of foresight in sizing up this pipe through here (along Snelling), the other of course, and I don't know why we can't and I'll ask our attorney here, I think there should be some penalty paid by the State of Minnesota because they obstructed us from going down their right-of-way, I realize that there is a problem with the waterway and that sort of thing, but to go after the State of Minnesota and see if we can't get some funds from them too. That would .have solved the problem north of Larpenteur and immediatly along Larpenteur Avenue, it wouldn't have taken care of this area-down here obviously because the contours were 979 and 989 through here and we go down through here, so everthing drains down to this particular area, as you can see on the contour map over here. So I just wanted to point out a little bit of history about the storm sewer problem. Now the only way we can go is south. Unfortunatly it took so long before St. Paul decided to put in this storm sewer and I don't know ~t)