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2863 <br />Engineer Lemberg: Based on normal run-off and point to point basis, they <br />originally gave us $1,200 per parcel. We brought it <br />down to $350. Any project of this type you have to start with <br />all and cut down because you can't add. It is a normal story <br />that as areas grow and there are mature people, they want curb <br />and gutter. We know assessments are tough. Up here we have a <br />chance and a possibility of obtaining an out let for this area. <br />This small area flows to the north. <br />Mr. Joyce: The residents indicated that in 1958 Sanitary Sewers were <br />installed, in 19b6 water and there's been construction within <br />the area since. They are paying annual installments which <br />are substantial and when you put on an additional assessment <br />like this and add it to the County roads and the rising cost of <br />real estate, it is rough. <br />Councilman Black: (1n what basis would there be no problem if the culvert were taken? <br />Mr. Joyce: I don't think that the County would allow this. It probably <br />would have a hard time. It seems to me that the water would <br />flow across. <br />Mr. Snyker: It was pointed out that the culvert was not authorized. In <br />the past, when roads are under water with no storm sewers, the <br />County has a tendency to raise the roads. You are into a <br />problem where you are saying th at if it doesn't go through, <br />the County is involved in a position to shove this down <br />Roseville's throat. We don't allow the road to become flooded -- <br />b~at if it does,. we can raise it . If Falcon Heights didn't pay <br />for and share the cost of oversizing the pipes, do you think <br />we could go out and put in catch basins anyway to drain into <br />Roseville? I think the compromise should be worked out <br />between Roseville and Falcon Heights; the County doesn't <br />want to be in the middle of it. <br />Mr. Joyce: You can see that this is a bad deal. <br />Engineer Lemberg: You would find that the cost would be considerably higher if the <br />County wasn't already helping out. Do you know how much it <br />would cost to go north and find some place to get rid of it? <br />Mr. Joyce: The only problem is the catch basins on Roselawn. <br />Councilman Black: The County already paying about $l~0,000 for their share of <br />the project. Would the people be entirely satisfied if the <br />culvert were removed. <br />Mr. Joyce: I don't think, that as a practical matter, there would be air <br />problem. <br />Rev. Storasli: Without the culvert there is no place for the water to go, period. <br />I think you have to look at it frown both sides. I don't think <br />there is any future for us if we don't go now. How would the <br />cost compare for this project and St. Antho~r? <br />Engineer Lemberg: Estimated cost without this area, University area or Fair Grounds <br />including just east of Snelling and South of Roselawn comes to <br />about $lt33,000, at present day cost. It would cover about 70 <br />acres and that just places it to the south border of Falcon Heights. <br />