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f Mr. 1 i i~l 2865 Hard: In discussion with the Conservation Department, I inquired about this area. The trees are about 27,~years old, the ponding area about 27 years vegetation. The gravel was taken at that time to build the lot on the north side. That has all been filled in over the years because each year the policy was to dump the soil from a greenhouse. There are some fine 1ega1 points of the lot but it has been established that the general flowage is to the north and the deepest point was to the north of Roselawn at that time there should have been a culvert and no one has taken the time to find out about it. Mr. Joyce: I think you should look at this realistically. The Village of Roseville, in stating that it is cutting off the culvert, is using leverage to make Falcon Heights submit to their will. Mayor Warkentien: Did they say it would be cut off? Engineer Lemberg: You can leave it there, but the water wouldn't go mere. Roseville doesn't care. It wi11 cut down the pipes all the way down. I couldn't state the cost of it. It took its bids for the different size pipes. It just drops one size all the way clown. We are talking about l2'' ~ 72t1 pipe. Mr. Joyce: What is the difference in comparison between 1211 and 1591. Engineer Lemberg: I have to low the grade of 'ihe :.and - I can't just say. Mr. Stump: The comment has been made that this area was farm land prior to subdivision-and that the water has drained north.. Some- where along the 1:ine~ the County built a road. It would have provided suitable drainage to the north if it had stopped drainage of the land. This might answer the question about the hidden culvert. Engineer Lemberg: I have no indication of that culvert. If the County dreated. damage to farms and land, it would have. taken care of then. Mr. Sr~yker: In the past, anytime there was a drainage, the County installed a culvert. On this particular lot, the men who checked it did neot find a culvert. Mr. Stump: Then all it would do would be to raise the assessment for those two lots and for the others. Do they want to charge us on the amount of water or the number of lots? Engineer Lemberg: Same thing -about $350 per lot. Stump: Still, the more area put 3.n, the more Roseville will get for each parcel above that. Engineer Lemberg: We are to determine which parcels are included. The drainage area is established, if we make some drainage come in outside of another drainage area, we have to include it. We are not talking about pipe size. Mayer Warkentien: Our first price from them was $118,000. We gradually reduced i.t and that is when we came-out for a public hearing. We knew we couln't assess you people fora $!18,000 project. We thought this was at least good for a presentation to you.