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MINUTES City Council Nov. 4, 1987 Ganzel P~r~. Kelly, attor•ney r•epr•esenting Mr•. and Mr~s. Ganzel, r•epor•ted that Dr•aina e the Ganzel's ar~e requesting that the City either• r~emove the stor•m Cont. sewer~ pipe or~ pur•chase an easement for• the pipe. Kelly also pointed out that the pr~oper•ties on both sides of the Ganzel's wer•e issued building per•mits. The Ganzel's ar•e asking that the City also extend the stor~m sewer• pipe as the pipe as it exists is cr•eating a pond in the area. Fahey pointed out that he has discussed the easement pr•ice that the Ganzel's have r•equested with the City Attor•ney. The City Attor•ney has r~evi ewed appr•ai sal s the Ci ty has for• other~ pr•oper•ti es i n the ar•ea and it is his feeling that an easement amount of $500 is mor~e in line with these appr•aisals. Kelly pointed out that lots in the ar•ea ar•e selling for• between $35,000 and $45,000 and pointed out that the lot the Ganzel's own is between 19,000 and 20,000 squar~e feet in size of which the City is using 2,200 squar~e feet. Fahey pointed out that it is City policy to r•equir•e dr•ainage easements when a proper•ty owner~ r•equests a fill per•mit. The Ci ty Attor~ney r•epl ied that thi s was cor~r•ect. Fahey pointed out that the dr~ainage flowin9 thr•ough the Ganzel pr•oper•ty is fr•om a County r•oad. Fahey stated that fr~om a City standpoint he cannot justify paying the Ganzel's what they are asking for~ the easement. If the Ganzel's wish to build on the lot and need to fill the pr~oper•ty, they will be r~equir•ed to dedicate a dr•ainage easement and they will also be r•equir•ed not to alter• the existing flow of dr•ainage. Kelly asked if the manhole would be r~emoved in addition to the stor~m sewer~ pipe. The City Engineer~ pointed out that the manhole is on the Johnson pr~oper•ty and not the Ganzel pr•oper•ty. Fahey pointed out that fr•om an engineer~ing standpoint it does not sound feasible to extend the stor~m sewer• pipe. Ther•efor~e, the Ganzel's will have to decide whether~ they ar~e going to give the City an easement for~ the pipe or~ whether• they want the pipe r~emoved. Fahey also suggested that the City Attor~ney and City Engineer• wor•k to obtain an easement for• the stor•m sewer~ fr•om the Johnson pr•oper•ty. En~ The City Engineer reviewed drainage maps of the City and surrounding Dr•ainage cities to show the Council the entir•e ar•ea which dr•ains into Lake Matter• Ger•vai s and the effect of thi s dr•ai nage on the Eng pr•oper~ty. The Engineer• pointed out that all of Little Canada, as well as Nor•th St. Paul, White Bear•, Maplewood, Vadnais Heights, Gem Lake dr•ain into Lake Ger~vais. Page -8-