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MIPIUTES City Council April 13, 1988 Payne Avenue (Cont.) * Correction Resolution No. 88-4-I51 >'~ 9,00p.00 The Engineer estimated the cost of the pipe alone at-~9@;00(}~ Council discussed how to finance the r~emainder~ of the r•oad impr•ovement, and asked hoev long Pa,yne Avenue has been in existence. The Fngineer~ estimated Payne Avenue to be nine year~s old. Scalze pointed out that the r~esidents along Mor~rison Avenue wer~e assessed for street reconstruction. Fahey indicated that these r~esidents were assessed at 80% of the cost of the impr•ovement. Bl esener~ poi nted out that D1or•r•i son Avenue was only hal f bui 1 t and not to the same standar•ds as Payne Avenue. Ther~e is also the pr~oposal to pay for the french piping from storm sewer funds. The City Clerk has also suggested that TIF money could possibly be used for• the improvement since the constr•uction within the TIF distr~ict has aided in the deter~ior•- ation of Payne Avenue. Blesener• stated that if the expected life expectancy of a r•oad is 20 year•s and Payne Avenue has existed for• 9 years, then per~haps a 30% assessment for• impr~ovement of Payne Avenue would be in order. Nowever, the City would have to look into the possibility of using TIF funds. Blesener felt a public hearing would be in or•der• to discuss the impr•ovement with the r~esidents of the ar•ea. Fahey asked if the constr~uction of Pa.yne Avenue was inadequate to benin with or if the City Engineer should have anticipatecl the problems the thi s str•eet. The City Engineer~ pointed out that the technology he is pr~oposing for• impr•ovement of the str•eet was not available 9 year~s ago. Scalze asked if this fabr•ic and fr~ench piping should have been used on Thunder~ Bay Road. The Engineer~ r•eplied that it has been used on por•tions of Thunder~ Bay Road. The Engineer• also pointed out that the other• roads in the ar~ea ar~e hi gher• wi th Payne Avenue bei ng the 1 owest r•oad i n the ar~ea. The Engineer• r•epor•ted that fr•ench dr•ains have also been used on Demont. Fahey felt that if Payne Avenue is improved, the City should establish a 50/50 assessment split. Fahey felt that the City's absorbing 70% of the cost of the impr~ovement did not seem equitable and pointed out that in depr~eciating something with a life expectancy of 20 year~s, the fir•st 9 or~ 10 year•s would r•esult in a depr•eciation of 60 to 70% of the life expectancy of the pr•oduct. Fahey felt that athr~eshold of 50% should be established for• str~eet r•econstr•uction assessment and the City should not go below this thr•eshold. Scalze agr~eed pointing out that whatever• the City does will establish a pr•ecedent. Page -14-