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MINUTES CITY COUNCIL APRIL 25, 2007 Allan noted that this is an environmentally sensitive area and suggested that perhaps the wetland issues should have been determined before proceeding with concept. Soby stated that they first wanted to determine what they could do with the land, and are aware that the proposal may change as further analysis is done. Soby noted that the Richie Place concept is a concept only, subject to change based on further engineering and Watershed review. Soby stated that they are very aware that the plat cannot make existing drainage conditions worse, and understand the review that will be involved. Soby stated that they are asking for concept design approval only. Blesener asked about the location of the stub road to the east. The City Engineer pointed out that the 2004 thoroughfare concept included a stub road to the east that connected with Beam Avenue. The Engineer felt there were benefits to connecting to Beam Avenue. He noted that when the 2004 thoroughfare concept was put together, he worked with the Watershed on it. The Engineer noted that the Lauren Development stub road is further south, but may provide the potential to connect to Beam Avenue. Montour felt given how far south the east stub road was proposed, it would not be feasible to connect to Beam. The City Engineer suggested that the location of the east stub road as proposed in 2004 would be approximately two lots north of where it is currently shown on the Richie Place concept. The Engineer suggested that there may be other potential locations. Soby indicated the east stub road location was best from an elevation standpoint. He noted that moving north, the grades get worse as you get closer to the pond area. Blesener indicated that before he voted on the concept he would like to have a better idea of wetland location. Soby stated that they understand that the development will have to be approved by the Watershed, and felt the City could act on the concept subject to that approval Allan stated that she did not like the request for a PUD for this property. Soby stated that Lauren Development is not seeking a PUD. He also noted that the proposal meets City Code requirements. Allan noted that the R-1 District limits cul-de-sac length to 500 feet, and the proposed cul- de-sac is twice that length. Soby indicated that Lauren Development could go back to the previous plan consisting of 121ots and a 500 foot cul- de-sac. Allan suggested that the previous plan would be acceptable with road connections to the east and west. This, however, may result in the loss of a lot or two, Montour pointed out that the revised concept was in response to direction given the developer by the City.