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MINUTES CITY COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 26, 2007 Keis felt that it was preferable for the development of the LaBore Road area with connecting streets rather than having several cul-de-sacs coming in from LaBore Road. Benshoof reported that he believes in street connectivity. However, in this case there are no assurances that the street connections can be made. Blesener pointed out that when the City develops a thoroughfare plan for an area, there are no assurances that the streets will be built. However, the City has approved temporary cul-de-sacs in the past, and the future connections were made. The City Administrator asked if Mr. Benshoof was saying that a cul-de- sac of 1,050 feet in length was unsafe. Benshoof replied that it is less safe than a cul-de-sac of 500 feet. The City Administrator noted that from the research he has done cul-de- sac limitations came about because of water system constraints in the 1930's. The Administrator asked if fire fighting access issues are taken out of the equation, would average daily hips from 16 single-family lots make the cul-de-sac unsafe. Benshoof stated that he would look at alternatives to the 1,050 cul-de-sac length proposed. The Administrator asked what Benshoof felt was an appropriate maximum cul-de-sac length. Benshoof reported that four of the neighboring communities limit cul-de-sac length to 500 feet, one is at 600 feet and one is at 1,000 feet. Therefore, the strong majority of neighboring communities limit cul-de-sacs to a 500-foot maximum. John and Jolene Gores, 2870 Arcade Street, appeared before the Council. John Gores informed the Council that he objects to any mischaracterizations of his testimony at the Planning Commission meeting. Gores claimed that the minutes are not accurate. Gores also reported that the plan for Richie Place that was included in the Public Hearing Notice he received is different from the plan that was introduced at the Planning Commission meeting. Gores objected to the City Attorney's interpretation that a temporary cul- de-sac was exempted from the 500-foot length limitation in the Code for maximum cul-de-sac length. Gores' opinion was that all cul-de-sacs must comply with that maximum length limitation. He noted that at the concept stage review he questioned what the hardship would be to allow for a longer cul-de-sac. 13