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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 13, 2007 come in tomorrow. The Planner indicated that the City must plan with the information it has. Quam again stated that he felt the City was short information in order to consider action on the preliminary plat. Quam suggested that the City Engineer should address the issue of the potential of further development to the west and comment on whether or not that potential exists. Quam felt that the contamination issue raised this evening was a new one, and indicated that he was not sure about the size of that concern. Quam stated that the property owners in the area understand that Lauren Development owns property and should be able to develop it. He felt that the plan submitted previously with a 500 foot cul-de-sac was a good plan. Quam also stated that he understands that the City has to plan for the future. He noted, however, that the neighborhood is also acting as stewards for the land. Roycraft asked if a thoroughfare plan for the area could be part of the approval of this preliminary plat. He stated that the adoption of this plan would answer questions for the future. If the thoroughfare plan shows no development potential for some properties, then owners would have to make those disclosures to new buyers. John Gores reported that the neighbors met with the City in June of 2000 and in March of 2004 relative to the development potential to the west. The City Engineer's 2004 report indicated that given the existing topography to Arcade Street it was not feasible to bring a road to Arcade as too much fill would be required. Gores indicated that the contention that the Richie Place cul-de-sac was a temporary cul-de-sac is not feasible. Gores indicated that the neighborhood does not want additional development to the west of the Richie property. He also indicated that the plan that was submitted with a 500 foot cul-de-sac was preferred by the neighborhood. Then the suggestion was made for east and west connections. Gores indicated that while an extension to the east may occur at some point, no one wants the cul-de-sac extended to the west. Gores disagreed with the contention that the Richie Place cul-de-sac was a temporary cul-de-sac and should be treated differently than a permanent cul-de-sac. Judy Buker, 2932 LaBore Road, indicated that she owns a large lot west of the proposed Richie Place and wanted to know if it would be feasible to develop her property should the cul-de-sac be extended to the west. Duray indicated that this is why the City is considering the potential to extend the Richie Place cul-de-sac both east and west. Knudsen asked the Planner to explain again why a variance is not needed for cul-de-sac length in this case. -11-