HomeMy WebLinkAbout02/20/1974 P&Z MinutesFeb. 20, 1f74
The regular meeting of the Lino Lakes Planning and Zoning Board was called to
order at 8:05 p.m. on February 20, 1974 by Chairman Karth. Members present;
Kelling, Rothbauer, Shearen. Absent;.Hill, L'Allier, Nadeau. Mr. Starr and tor.
Locher were present as was Mr. Harier, liaison to the Council.
Mr. Kelling moved to approve the minutes of January 16, 1974 as written. Seconded
by Mr. Shearen. 'lotion carried.
Mr. Wayne Herr appeared before the Board with preliminary plans for the division
of 60 acres of property located at the North end of tlest Rondeau Lake Road. This
is the former Erickson farm. Mr. Herr has divided the land into tracts from 21
acres to 10 acres. He would prefer to split this land using meets and bounds
rather than platting into lots and blocks. He has had some boring done - in one
area he had gone down 812 feet and did not find water; In another area he had gone
22 feet and the soil became mushy but did not run into water.
Kelling questioned Mr. Locher about the use of meets and bounds for legal
descriptions. Is it legal to do it this way?
Mr. Locher read from Ordinance 21A which provides for the transfer of title on a
parcel of land of 212 acres or more with the legal descrintion given in meets and
bo unas .
Mr. Kelling had understood that the Council was attempting to avoid land transfers
by this means since most descriptions get to be long and complicated.
Mr. Locher agreed that this was so. The County would prefer lot and block descrip-
tions since it reduces the possibility of a mistake in copying the description.
Mr. Herr felt that he would prefer to stay with the meets and bounds format since
platting gets to be an expensive thing. Although there is the possibility that he
may be forced to plat since the title to the land is a Torrence Title and the
County objects to meets and bounds transfers on such titled land.
Mr. Herr pointed out that some road work had been done on the Northern edge of the
property within the Township of Columbus. Ho dosen't know if this is a Township
road or just some grading that had been done. If there is no road, then he will
take two of the 212 acres lots just South of this boundary and include them in two
2=5 acres lots just to the South making two 5 acre tracts instead, otherwise these
two areas would not have an access.
Mr. Herr questioned the Board on their feeling as the position of the road Going
through the property. He had brought the road into the property some 300' East of
the Section line. This was to avoid the possiblity of the street becoming a main
thoroughfare.
There was discussion the installation of the street. Mr. Herr asked if the Board
felt that the curbing was necessary. He would prefer not to put the curbing in.
These are large tracts of land and Mr. Herr felt that curbing would detract from
the rural atmosphere that he wanted to retain. The Ordinance requires curbing but
it also allows variations with Council approval.
Mr. Karth reminded Mr. Herr that he would need a topography map.
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Mr. Herr said there was no problem, His main concern was the Board's feeling as to
the location of the street.
The general concensus of the Board was they had no objections to the placement of
the street.
Mr. Kelling suggested, that in order to protect this land and land adjacent from
becoming land locked, there should be a 33' easement for road purposes along the
West and North borders of this property.
The general feeling of the Board was that the preliminary plan presented by Mr.
Herr was a good layout and they felt that this was well planned.
Mr. Herr asked what came next? Tlhat is his next step?
Mr. Karth said he would have to submit a topography map along with the plan. Ten
cc:nies of these to be in the Clerk's office ten days before the next Planning and
Zoning Board meeting. This would mean the plans should be in the office by March
11, 1974. Mr. Herr will also appear at the February 25, 1974 Council meeting.
Mgr. Herr thanked the Board and left.
Mr. Harvey Molitor appeared before the Board requesting a Variance to Ordinance
21 A. He is buying a strip of land 18.5 feet in width which will be attached to
his present lot. There was discussion as to keeping the section line clear for
future road purposes. The remaining parcel of land is only 100' in width and can-
not be built on at the present time.
Mr. Locher is representing Mr. Molitor and said that when this land is transferred
it will be treated as one parcel with ono legal description.
The Board had no objections to this and ?:,r. Kelling moved to recommend to the
Council approval of the Variance. Seconded by Mr. Shearen. Motion carried.
Mr. Jerry Boyd appeared before the Board asking for permission to park a home he
is moving within the City limits for a indefinite period of time. This would depend
on hew soon road restrictions are posted and at what date the restrictions are
removed. He is buying property in Columbus where the house is to be placed. If
the transactions are completed, it may not be necessary to mark the house, but he
wanted to make these arrangements just in case he ran into a problem.
The Ordinance governing the moving of buildings within the City says that the
building must be inspected, he must obtain a permit to move it over the City
streets and he must have a permit to park it over 24 hours anywhere within the
City. Mr. Boyd has written permission from Mr. Ernest Apitz to park the building
on his property. This would be on Birch street just off Highway 49. The Building
would be parked 40' to 50' back from Birch Street.
Mr. Locher said the Board should make a recommendation to the Council as to their
requirements for this building to be parked within the City.
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Mr. Shearen moved to recommend a temporary permit to park a house within the City
upon compliance with the Ordinance, approval of the Building Inspector and Building
to moved within 10 days after road restrictions are lifted. Seconded by Mr.
Kelling. Motion carried.
Mr. Karth reported that he had had a call from a Mr. Pat O'Mara who is interested
in buying a 5 acre piece of land on West Rondeau Lake Drive for the purpose of
operating a dog kennel. This is part of the land that Hr. Herr is dividing. Mr.
Locher read from the Ordinance governing dog kennels and they must be located
within a commercial zone, and the owner must obtain a special use permit.
Mr. Starr went through the nine points that were discussed at the Metropolitan
Council in conjunction with the Municipal Comprehensive Land Use Plan.
The next step in the procedure is for the Planning and Zoning Board to hold a
Public Hearing, make any major revisions brought out at the Public Hearing, adopt
and transmit to the Council as approved by the Planning and Zoning Board. This
pian then could be adopted or revised by the Council. The Plan must be certified
by Resolution and possibly filed with the Registar of Deeds.
Mr. Locher said in order to hold a Public Hearing, the notice must be published in
the legal newspaper ten days before the hearing. Since this involved more than
five acres of land, written notices are not required.
This Public Hearing must be held before the Planning and Zoning Board and they
would adopt this Plan as a Recommendation to the Council.
Mr. Starr said the Board should transmit the plan to the Council with the intent to
hold a Public Hearing noted, hold the hearing, make modifications according to the
Public, adopt by Resolution, certify, and transmit to the Council. This would be
the order in which the steps should be taken according to law.
Mr. Kelling moved to transmit to the Council the Comprehensive Land Use Plan as
prepared by the Planning and Zoning Board and with the Metropolitan Council
recommendations with a recommendation that it be considered at a Public Hearing, as
required by Law, on March 13, 1974 at the City Hall at 8:00 P.M. Seconded by Mr.
Shearen. Motion carried.
The Clerk was instructed to write to all Planning and Zoning Board Members before
this Hearing reminding them that this is a very important meeting and it is a must
that they attend.
Mr. Karth suggested that the Board be thinking about the 75' lots - should that be
changed or do they want to leave as is.
Mr. Marier felt that all Ordinance dealing with housing and land use should be
revised and brought up to todays standards. Mr. Marier said he would go through
these ordinances and put it on paper the ones that should be considered. Possibly
one or maybe two could be looked at at a meeting. He would try and set up a
schedule for this to be done.
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Mr. Kelling said if Mr. Marier was willing to do this, it would sure save a lot of
leg work for the Boar. He felt that this was something that should be done and the
Board agreed.
Mr. Shearen asked Mr. Starr if he had heard anymore about a moratorium on building
permits for properties not located on a Metro Interceptor.
"1r. Starr said that he had not.
Mr. Amundsen questioned the Board on wall signs on business in a commercial zone.
Did they need a permit?
Mr. Locher checked the Sign Ordinance and all signs over 6 square feet must have a
permit including wall and roof signs.
There was more discussion on the signs in the City - on the duties of the Building
Inspector - and other items that Mr. Amundsen had questions about.
The Clerk was instructed to write to the Fritag/Anderson Real Estate Company and
t.z,11 them they are either to remove the signs they have in the City or put the
`!_?or Sale" portion on the signs. Mr. Locher suggested that she also include the
Penalty portion of the Ordinance.
'Ir. Jim Shearer moved to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. Seconded by Mr. Kelling. Aye.