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Eagle Brook Church <br />• page 4 <br />• <br />Three, retail or office warehouse uses on 40 acres will have greater sustained traffic <br />impacts than the church. However, the intensity of impact during peak times will be less <br />than the church's peak times. <br />First, the traffic analysis in the EAW did not address services on days other than Sunday. <br />Information received from the church on December 3rd indicates two Saturday services. It may <br />well be that in the future, additional service times will be added during weekdays. Once the <br />church is approved and built, the City has no way to limit service times. The traffic analysis <br />should be expanded to address service times on Saturday and weekdays. <br />Second, it is true that study's recommendation to use traffic control personnel to mitigate <br />impacts did not raise the level of service to a required level. As noted at the November P & Z <br />meeting, the critical locations are 1 V2 and 1 3/4 miles away from the church site. In addition, the <br />City of Lino Lakes does not have control of the intersections in questions. The 20th Ave. and <br />Main St. intersection is completely within the City of Centerville. The I -35E ramps are subject <br />to the jurisdictions of Anoka County and MnDOT. <br />Anoka County will reconstruct the 20th Ave. intersection pending the results of the current study <br />of Main St. (CSAH 14) from I -35W to I35 -E. This is likely to occur within 10 years. <br />The I -35E ramps function at unacceptable levels now. Reconstructing them involves <br />reconstructing the entire interchange. Neither the state nor the federal government have funding <br />available for this. <br />If no development is to occur that will increase traffic at the interchange, the economic <br />development goals for the interchange area must be re- examined. <br />Third, the comparing the church proposal to 40 acres of retail or office warehouse development <br />is not necessarily instructive. For one thing, there are well over 40 acres of developable land on <br />the church site. For another, development in the surrounding area will increase over time as <br />well, and this must be considered. A third point is that a short, intense peak once or twice a <br />week should be compared to a significant increase in ongoing, daily traffic generation five or six <br />days a week. One must also consider the activity level on the site itself for different land uses. <br />Clarification of the County Ditch Drainage Area and Affect On Design: Residents <br />raised a question about the area being drained by the county ditch as it exists now. The <br />Watershed District has stated about 600 acres, residents say more. Private drain tiles typically <br />are not all documented. It is impossible to know how many private landowners have installed <br />tiles that cross a natural subwatershed boundary, which would increase a drainage area for a <br />downstream tile. <br />However, this question is a red herring. Regardless of the drainage area, the drainage rate of the <br />tile/ditch must not be altered. This is the salient point. The drainage design must maintain the <br />existing flow capacity. <br />
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