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Planning & Zoning Board April 8, 1998 Page 6 5. The outlots will require future preliminary and final plat approval prior to issuance of a building permit for these outlots. 6. Appropriate drainage and utility easements are established with the final plat. The size and location of the needed easements should be subject to approval of the City Engineer. 7. The drainage, grading and utility plans should be subject to the review and approval of the CityEngineer and Rice Creek Watershed District. 8. Applicant dedicate a 20 foot trail easement through the plat connecting the middle school and Village Center. 9. The City Architectural Guidelines be applied to the future industrial development within the plat. Chair Schaps asked if the length of the cul -de -sac was about the same as it was one month ago when this was discussed. Mr. Brixius verified that it was and explained the rational behind their review. He stated that they looked at the potential of extending it to 4th Avenue, but that right -of -way no longer exists. Additionally, taking more traffic down to Elm Street is a very unpopular option. He stated they had looked at a southern lane extension through the wetlands and felt with that disruption they were not gaining anything. The extension to the north to the Village Parkway area will provide a second entrance and a signaled entrance into this subdivision. It may also add some opportunity in the future for redevelopment of some of these under - utilized sites. Mr. Brixius continued stating that they do believe the cul -de -sac length will work with the conditions that they have outlined. He believes they have addressed this to the best of their ability if they leave the street open and available for circulation. Chair Schaps then asked if the 50' foot cul -de -sac was a minimum necessary or if that was more than enough. Mr. Brixius explained that the standard for a right -of -way cul -de- sac is 45' turning radius. By increasing it 5', they are allowing for the semi - trucks, although most trucks can make the turn in 40'. The City Engineer felt that 50' should be the minimum. Chair Schaps asked if possibly that should be increased. Mr. Brixius believed the 50' minimum was satisfactory. Mr. Trehus then asked for clarification as the whether the 50' was radius or diameter. Mr. Brixius stated it was radius, with the paved diameter being 100', leaving the right -of- way radius at 60'. Mr. Trehus asked about the safety aspect with the narrowness of the roads. Mr. Brixius stated that with a standard street width of 32', and no parking on both sides, there is adequate manuvering space. They had considered parking on one side, but had decided that they needed to accomodate all the traffic and be able to handle an emergency situation. Mr. Brixius noted that they had no concern about the parking. • • Mr. Robinson asked if there had been any discussion with the County as far as access to • Lake Drive, and how far north of Elm Street the access would be. Mr. Brixius explained