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Amended/Approved: 4/10/06 Paul Danielson, Engineer, Kimley-Horn and Associates A change was made for the residential portion of the site and it was his intent to wait for a favorable response from the Planning Commission before submitting all of the engineering plans. He asked for a recommendation of removing some box elders in order to plant evergreens within that tree line. He said the conditions of the City Engineer are not a deal breaker and they could comply with submission requirements in time for the City Council Meeting. The cul-de- sac on the southwest corner was an issue. That was what was proposed at Concept Stage and the purpose is to slow down traffic and provide more green spaces. City standards for cul-de-sacs need to be provided. Cross sections for retaining walls were submitted. Those that require guard rails based on State standards will receive them. He is not sure it is necessary to get VBWD approval in order to get City approval. Storm sewer profiles were included in the submittal but he will provide as necessary. Septic system was provided in package for the church. Watermain sizing is not a huge issue. Trail widths and locations are not part of the City system so they were changed to loop within the neighborhood. Stubbing the trail to the east was discouraged by the Council. Conifers require a certain amount of light and the box elder canopy is too dense for them to survive. Roundabout was to calm traffic and to add nodes of common green space and broke up asphalt. THE CHAIRMAN OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:35 P.M. Jim Dyer, 5435 Keats Avenue The Keats/Highway 36 intersection is going to fail and something needs to be done. It may not be the developer's fault or fully their responsibility. Pockets of development are all that are being created and you can't drive through neighborhoods anymore like you can in the Tri-lakes Area. Another parcel of land south of Outlot E or Outlot F of 20 acres will be further landlocked to the north by this development. The developers are not interested in providing access to the south property line. That outlot would be a nice driveway for the landlocked parcel to the south. Maybe residents could drive down this street instead of Keats Ave. Steven Ziertman, 5761 Keats Avenue Owner to west of the church location. The trail changed from the original design. He would like to be sure the trail maintains the appropriate setback from his property line. The road is already in going into the church in the development. The city is putting the horse before the cart. The road should not have gone in until this application was approved. THE CHAIRMAN CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7:41 P.M. Pat Kinney, Developer Mr. Dyer contacted the church asking the question about right of way. At this point we are too far into the plans to change them now. The Council did not want the road going through to the east, why would they put one in to the south. The southeast corner is hilly. They would have to redesign the whole plat two years into it. M/S/P, Armstrong/Schneider to table the preliminary plat, OP Development Stage Plan, and Conditional Use Permit of HIDDEN MEADOWS OF LAKE ELMO to the April 24, 2006 Meeting. Vote:9:0. M/S/P, Armstrong/Schneider to amend the previous motion, and table the prelimnary plat until such time as the Planner can return it to the Planning Commission. Vote: 8:01: Abstain: Lake Elmo Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of March 27, 2006 2