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Commission adopted a recommendation regarding the Old Village Planning District substantially differs <br />than the Village Commission had recommended. That action concluded the Planning Commission <br />recommendations regarding the Inventory, Policy and Land Use Elements of the Comp Plan Update. On <br />March 22, the Village Commission discussed the action of the Planning Commission regarding Old Village <br />Land Use and decided to ask the Planning Commission to defer sending its recommendation to the City <br />Council. The Village Commission requested the Planning Commission to consider a workshop to discuss <br />the differing views of the two commissions regarding Old Village land use. An additional topic of the <br />workshop would be the topic of TDR/PDR and the County Green Corridor. Jane Harper, Washington <br />County Planner, would attend the workshop to explain and answer questions on those topics. The Planning <br />Commission concurred with the workshop request and requested participation in the workshop by the City <br />Council. Based on staff availability, May 1'` would be the earliest date available. <br />M/S/P DeLapp/Dunn — to establish May 1, 2000, 7 p.m., as the date for a Workshop on Old Village Land <br />Use Planning and PDR/TDR/Green Corridor with the Village and Planning Commissions and City Council. <br />(Motion passed 5-0.) <br />B. Report on Open Space Zoning Ordinance Amendment <br />City Planner Dillerud provided a memo outlining staffs understanding of the Council direction from <br />November, 1999. The direction the Council had given in November represented a very significant <br />departure from that recommended by the Planning Commission earlier in 1999 and refocusing on the <br />concept of density bonuses in total. <br />Council discussion was as follows: Council member Armstrong would be willing to make the open space <br />smaller if the lots can be made larger. She thought 20 acres for OP was too small. The City does not have a <br />hard rule as to pavement of trails. Council member DeLapp thought people like the trails and hated to <br />loose them. The type of trail pavement would depend on how trails will be used. Mayor Hunt indicated the <br />city does not want to cut down trees to put in trails because people like those amenities. <br />Planner Dillerud responded if it's a part of the marketing strategy, the developer would do it on his or her <br />own accord. Perhaps it should be mandatory. What is the relationship between increased density and <br />trails? Should there be bonus points for anything, OR should some of the characteristics and amenities in <br />the ordinance now like the village green, trails, setback of structures, be instead required, and then raise the <br />base allowable to account for that. <br />Council members Armstrong, DeLapp, and Dunn like that idea. Council members Siedow and DeLapp <br />would use park dedication for trails and dispense with bonus points. Tim Freeman stated if you use wood <br />chips for trails, which are not expensive, with the lack of maintenance, you don't have much of a nail. <br />Bituminous nails are expensive and difficult to build. Dillerud stated that you could use park dedication <br />credits for nails, and use a tighter grid for trails throughout the city. <br />Council member Dunn had not been a real proponent of OP because developers seemed to cram as many <br />lots as they can, and what is left over is in Open Space. Unusual shape parcels are hard to deal with. Some <br />people in cluster developments think they live in the City. People who have acreage just love it. We tried <br />our best, now what is the best way to retain our rural character. <br />The Council was in agreement with the basic requirements for OP in Planner Dillerud's memo. As far as <br />length to width ratio, Tim Freeman thought absolute ratio 2 '/2 to 1 more attractive ... 2 is too small. Mr. <br />Freeman invited the Council to see how nice the Tana Ridge dev came out by listening to the land. <br />As far as suggestion No. 2, raise OP to 10 acres and if you still require 50% open space, this will not work. <br />Too many pieces that cannot be used will drive down the lot size. As for the 500', people will ignore the <br />shape of the land. What are you trying to buffer from, OP from RR or RE. If you're going to use a nominal <br />40 acres, this should be spelled out exactly in the ordinance. <br />Mayor Hunt thought the last four suggestions on bonus density would have to be reviewed for impact. <br />Planner Dillerud responded that the intent of 500' was making the clustering invisible, internalizing it. <br />LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MINUTES APRIL 4, 2000 4 <br />
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