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SPECIAL JOINT COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION MEETIN'P9 JUNE 14, 1983 Chairman Prince opened the joint meeting at 7:40 P.M. Commission members present: Graves, Lyall, Dreher, Lundquist-9 Peterson, Nazarian Gifford, :Michels, and Moe, Absent Ryberg. Also present Administrator Whittaker and all City Council members, R-1 RECOMMENDATIONS: Chairman Prince referred the Council to the Zoning Map and outlined the R-1 areas that the Commission recommend.: be deleted from the Comp Plan, Ibis recommendation is based on the suggestion of the Met Council, which indicated that Lake Elmo had too many infi.11 areas planned. They consider all areas under 5acres as urban density and will require metro sewer at some point in the future, As Lake Elmo has no sewer plans, they will not provide sewer service should planned urban density Lots be planned and developed and sewer problems arise. Therefore, they sigggested that the City delete all 11-1 planned areas that are not actually in —fill areas. (Specific areas were outlined in PZC minutes of March 28, 1983 ), Comments: --Eder — no problem in changing -the plan — have to have the property owners in and find out what their commitment of the property is. --.Whittaker. — outlined the areas that will remain planned R—l. --Fraser — questioned the planned_R-1_area -around _Legion Pond. — should this be planned R-1 because of potential water problems. --Whittaker — each plat would have to be carefully reviewed. Explained PZC rational —Nelson/Hageman Propose deleting the planned R-1 and. keeping -the RR zoning. Area, to the east is Ag — presently no plan for other use. Property to west is Gun Club and the Regional Park is to the north — R-1 appeared to be spot zoning at this time. —Deaubi.en—Seeler Area — retain as RR -- no present concentration of R-1 in this area Presently larger lots — no need to encourage R-1 now. --Schaefer (mining parcel off Jamaca) — presently zoned Ag and used for mining. If 11-1 is desired in the future, owners can come in and apply for a rezoning. Population projections for the City have not, come to pass. Presently 250 platted and not 'built on lots in the City. Met Council feels City has too much planned densi t-y. --Fraser — would support this recommendation. This would give strong reason to plan higher density and/or moderate cost housing in Section 32 where sewer is available. --Eder. — explained the Land Planning; Act. Agrees with the 10 ,year foreast; but also sees the need for an ultimate development plan. --Morgan — Concerned — Believes 1 1/2 acre lots can sustain themselves indefinately, therefore, does not see a problem with. planning 1 1/2 acre lots. Can see this would he a problem should sewer come in though. Generally agrees with Eder — may see over—all development by year. 2010 — but this can be done on 1 1/2 acre lots. --Mazzara — generally supports proposal. Concerned about Old Village area. --Dorm — Sees this proposal as acceptable. --Eder — in order to continue the on —site septic systems so that sewer is never required, residents are going to have to accept and participate in a mandatory septic inspection program. Residents will have to accept the responsibility of keeping their systems in prime operational condition so as not to pollute the ground water thereby negating the possibility of necessity of metro sewer. T-914 RECOMMENDATIONS: Prince outlined the planned business areas along I-94 and the recommended changes proposed by the Commission. The Commission is suggesting enlarging the commercial/ business areas around the hi gfiway intersections to encourage development in these - areas and get away from the commercial highway "strip".