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LAKE ELMO CITY COUNCIL MEETING 10-4-83 Page 5 consideration of the drainage issues. Weyer - Assuming that this does not pass this evening, what do the homeowners do then, go back and submit another petition for the exact original proposal so we can keep control of these costs? Eder - I suspect, based on the fact there are not too many residents here, that there is a possibility if people knew what was in this proposal they would prefer to comment on it. I would think the discussion be deferred and people should have a chance to read this over and think about it and come back with questions or what should happen. Closed hearing at 7:50 p.m. Fraser - I would like to proceed with whatever discussion Council members wish to make. Dunn - This should serve as a basis for negotiating and at least questioning what the engineer has proposed and modifying from there. You have to keep in mind that we have to look out for the City's interest. If we get something that is substandard for maintenance standpoint we are going to be over there every year bringing in rock, whatever, to correct erosion. Fraser - There has been discussion at various times and I sense about three different approaches, one being when we asked the engineer to look at it in a very preliminary way. I judge that to be completely inadequate type of improvement. There is also the petition that the property owners presented which the Council asked the engineer to use as a basis for what he has come up with. I don't think I could go along with either of these so I think the consideration will rest between the 22 foot as presented here tonight or the 32 foot road presented earlier. Given that, with a difference per lot of only $280.00 I think it would make good sense to go with the road that meets the City standards. I would not vote for the 22 foot road based on the material which I have at hand, and I certainly cannot imagine going at some future time for a smaller road. I think the action will be no action or proceeding at a time when a road up to City standards can be built. Mazzara - I can certainly sympathize with the homeowners out at Lake Jane for the difference in $20,000 to $52,000 but :realistically, what we asked Larry to do was to tie up all the loose ends as far as erosion, water, etc., and although it is probably a lot higher than I thought it was going to be, that's our two choices, I think either the 22 foot or 32 foot road in there. M/S/P (Morgan/Mazzara) to table the matter until the next meeting. (Carried 5-0) 5