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� i ..�i�, .� ' � ;�.:. ,': ;: - ;: ;:. ..� :� _ -- , ll�ounds View Planning Cammission Novem�er 6, 1996 Reguiar Meeting ��e � Director Sheidon explained that the secortd parf of the request periained to fhe signage for f�ounds View Square Shopping Cenier, and that the proposal has be�n changed by the �pplicani. ih� origina! proposai was fnr a 75 foot high, 800 square fooi sign. ihe Planning Commission had reque�fed information on how much of the sign would show above fihe bridge. She reported on a study conducted by the Ciiy Engineer which estimated ihat the bridge would cover up 52 fee� of fihe sign, when viewed from a disfiance representing 10 seconds of travel �ime at 50 mph on Highway 10, e�st cafi �he sign. ff the sign were 75 feet high, #hen 23 fieet would shovv above Yhe bridge. She expfained that ihe applicanf is now proposirtg a sign which would be 50 feet high, and have 430 square �eet of sign area. Signs at the other shopping cer�ters owned by the applicant (Mendofia Pi�za, Crysta! Cenfer, ar�d Norihway Cenfier) were reviewed. The sigr� at fVler�dota Pfaza w�s ti�e same as the one requested by the applicant for Mounds View Square. I�irector S�teldon explained thaf once you low�r the sign, even to 50 feet, you cannot see it over fhe bridge, so from stafF's perspective, you have losi tt�e connection betw�en the bridge and the need for a variar�ce. She suggested several ways to address this issue; 1) amending the Code, 2} a variance requesf for monument signage at the driveway enirances and at Long Lake Road, 3) reducing fhe pylon sign to fiit within fhe current code, , 4) add a proced�re for approving "sign programs or packages" io the City's code which v✓ouid allow customized sign regulations for the iarger shopping centers in Mour�ds View, 5) grant a variance for a"flaating box" of signage from the top of the bridge railing to 75 feet, with a condition that the variance could not be used unless fihe bridge is builf and the City has six months in which to update iis Sign Code. Ii the Sign Code is amended to allow a sign program, #hen the appiicant could noi use the "fioating box". Direcfor Sheldon suggested that the Commission fiable this ifiem untii a firmer proposai is made and more information is ob#ained from the applicant. Commissioner �rasaernl� wanted to make it clear that fhis variance request is contingent upon the bridge being buiffi and whatever variance is passed by fihe Commission needs to have fhis clause in ifi. .JoAnn Colle�ra, 26�7 Cocaniy Roadl, ask�d why the parking and signs are being dealf with r�ow if w� don't even know ifi fihe bridge c�f the dinner house restaur�nfs wil! be builfi, ii was explair�ed fhai before the applicanf ev�n considers builciing fhe restaurants, they would need to know if adequate par�ing is available to inform fu�ure tenants and ii is only fhe sign request fhat is reiated io the consfrucfiion of the bridge. !f wa� added that if was easier to came fo the Planning Commissi�n with both of fhese iiems at once. Ms. Colleen expressed her concern aboui the construction of a iigh#ed sign and the view from her window. She afso expressed concern wi#h other businesses wanfing taller signs.