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Page 6 September 11, 1995 1 Mr. Harrington responded that it would basically be twelve months before the Conditional Use Permit 2 would be reviewed. 3 4 Mr. Harrington added that also as requested by council, staff did obtain a list of police calls to the Suds 5 &Shine Car Wash and to the Wash Me Car Wash. Since 1990, only one call had come in to the 6 Police Department for the Suds & Shine Car Wash, with 58 calls for the Wash Me Car Wash. 7 8 Steve Rose, 5279 O'Connell Drive, stated he along with another neighbor, has talked with Mr. 9 Harstad in regard to the proposal and looking at it they feel the 24 hour operation of the facility is 10 really the big issue that they are objecting to. The additional signage doesn't appear to be a problem 11 nor does the reduction in the hours of the attendant. The Suds &Shine Car Wash has basically been a 12—gy-are-a-good-neighbor-is-because-they-close-their-doors-at 13 10:00 at night. The concern during the hours of the late evening near the winter he does not feel will 14 be an issue, as windows are closed and people are indoors, so from October to March it really should 15 not be a problem. But during the summer hours they are already being buffered by the noise of the 16 Fina Car Wash for 24 hours (who are supposed to have their doors closed, but they don't). Also at 17 the Saturn dealership he could tell the names of all of the sales people and what extensions they get 18 paged to on a regular basis. That noise carries through their loudspeaker. This would be just another 19 encroachment to de-grade the quality of the entire neighborhood. He is not going to say that this 20 definitely would be a problem because he does not know. But he feels the potential impact on the 21 neighborhood would definitely be bad. 22 23 Mayor Linke explained that at the council's work session, it was his suggestion that there be a change 24 to the review time of the Conditional Use Permit from six to twelve months, as a six month period 25 could be during the winter months and would not give a clear picture of the potential problems that 26 could result. 27 28 Mr. Rose stated the real issue is that noise carries differently in the late evening hours and it can really 29 be heard. The other issue that they are concerned about is during the summer hours youth will 30 congregate outside the facility. One solution would be to require the people to drive their vehicles into 31 the wash facility. The majority of the noise does not come from where they wash their vehicles, but 32 rather from when they pull outside. They have their radios on, etc. During the evening hours, the 33 vacuums might be off so they will pull their vehicles out and dry them off. Maybe if the people 34 would stay inside the facility to dry their vehicles where there is adequate lighting and other nice 35 amenities, it might be a solution to the problem. 36 37 Ms. Hankner stated she is not in support of keeping the facility open 24 hours per day. Comparing 38 Suds &Shine with the other car wash is not a fair comparison as one is located in a residential area 39 and the other in a commercial area. At this time, she does not see a compelling need to change the 40 hours of operation to 24 hours per day. 41 42 Ms. Trude stated when Mr. Harstad first came to the Planning Commission he was asked how the 43 conditions would impact his potential purchase of the property. If she remembers correctly, the full- 44 time attendant was the most critical issue for him to operate the business, but he also had stated he felt 45 the 24-hour operation was important. She asked if he could explain this to the City Council. 46 47 Mr. Harstad explained that when the previous owner came before the Planning Commission for this 48 property, he felt being open daytime hours was the way to go. His feelings are differerent however. 49 Twenty-four hour operation will generate more income which pays for taxes, utilities,etc. He stated 50 he has three other facilities which are 24 hour operations. He feels he would know within three to four 51 months if this operation will generate the income to support being open the 24 hour period. If he