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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes July 20, 2004 Page 9 1 Commissioner Gray agreed that the proposed location would provide better visibility. He stated 2 that he cannot see where there would be a safety concern at this intersection and reviewed with 3 the Commission. 4 5 Chair Stromgren noted that he did changed his position after seeing the advantage to pulling the 6 sign back from the street. 7 8 Vice Chair Hanson stated that it would be safer if people were stopped at the intersection while 9 reading the messages displayed on the sign. He reviewed the proposed location with the 10 Commission noting that they have chosen the best spot. He stated that the purpose of the sign is 11 to let the public know what is going on, not that they are in St. Anthony Village. He suggested 12 placing an emblem at the bottom of the sign for the City logo and keeps the text message to the 13 top of the sign. 14 15 Chris Clark agreed noting that Vice Chair Hanson's suggestion for placement of the emblem is a 16 very viable alternative. He stated that they could downscale the sign and still be well within the 17 parameters. He noted that there are several ways to work the design noting that they want to keep 18 the sign proportionally correct and readable. 19 20 Commissioner Gray asked Mr. Clark if he is aware of any studies that were done for the signs at 21 busy intersections. Mr. Clark agreed that safety is a key issue noting that he has never heard of 22 anyone dying from reading a sign. He stated that several other Cities have the same type of 23 signage and have not had any issues. He stated that the sign could present potential safety issues 24 adding that he does not see it happening. 25 26 Commissioner Hoska stated that he did consider the safety issues noting that if people blow a 27 traffic sign that this is a police issue. He agreed that people are getting more blatant about 28 running red lights adding that this is a matter for the police. He stated that he does not see the 29 location as a problem adding that he initially thought that the hill location by the park would be 30 the best location. He noted that after reviewing the input received he agrees with the current 31 proposed location. 32 33 Mr. Clark provided the Commission with examples of various signs for their review and 34 consideration. He stated that his main concern was doing a lot of copy/characters and be able to 35 make it more readable from the street. He confirmed that it would provide more text space with a 36 smaller logo noting that he would go back to drawing board. He assured the Commission that he 37 would remain within the requirements of the ordinance. 38 39 Motion by Commissioner Gray, seconded by Commissioner Jenson, to recommend that the 40 electronic sign variance requests be approved as proposed. 41 Motion carried unanimously 42 43 Commissioner Young asked how they go about determining if five minutes per message is the 44 appropriate length. Chair Stromgren asked how long the red light is for each way. Ms. Hall 45 reviewed the conditions identified with respect to message changes noting that they could clarify