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Planning Commission Regular Meeting Minutes March 18, 2025 Page 3 There are a lot of children in the area. He is concerned about strangers pulling into the church 1 parking lot. The current sign is sufficient. Drivers will be looking at the sign and not see little 2 children in the area. The majority of the people who go to that church do not live in the 3 neighborhood. He asked that his concerns be passed on to Council. Chair Socha asked how 4 this could be done to help with concerns, and if there were hour restrictions for the sign, 5 would that help. Mr. Hanson stated if it were turned off before sunset, that would help. He 6 loves this City, pays his taxes and has served on this commission in the past. 7 8 Mr. Dan Kramer, 2604 34th Avenue NE, emphasized to the Planning Commission when he 9 turned in his application for the sign to the City, he was given the dynamic display ordinance. 10 This ordinance will be followed to the letter. The sign will be dimmed down at night as part of 11 the requirements. This sign is no different than the ones at St. Anthony High School and 12 Nativity Church. It is a way for their church to talk about some of their community outreach 13 that they do. The current sign is lit and goes out at 11:00 p.m. The intensity will go down in 14 the evening and the hours per the ordinance will be adhered to. Commissioner Morita asked 15 after the sign was installed would the church be willing to work with the neighbors 16 collaboratively. Mr. Kramer stated they want to be good neighbors and would follow all the 17 guidelines. The setback is 20 feet, and if you look at the line of sight, very little light goes 18 west. Commissioner Anderson referred to the picture of the sign in the packet and noted they 19 won’t be shining as bright at night. She asked that the photograph be shown to Mr. Hanson. 20 21 Mr. Ron Hanson stated he is west of the church and the light does shine in his window from 22 the current sign. He can read the entire sign from his den. 23 24 Chair Socha closed the public hearing at 7:32 p.m. 25 26 Commissioner Erickson asked if there is any obligation to have the same regulations as other 27 dynamic signs in the City. Mr. Grittman stated the sign does not have to have the same 28 regulations as the other signs, as it is a Conditional Use Permit, and other conditions may exist 29 on the site. 30 31 Commissioner Corneille asked if there were details in the other CUP for dynamic signs that 32 would apply in this case. Mr. Grittman stated the Nativity sign had a setback condition. Chair 33 Socha stated she remembers a discussion about hours on the previous sign approvals. 34 35 Commissioner Mayne asked how bright the light is on the existing sign and how that would 36 compare to the dynamic sign. Mr. Grittman stated it is a different type of measurement 37 between foot candles and LED lights. There is not really a good way to compare. 38 Commissioner Mayne asked if the new sign could be less of a distraction and Mr. Grittman 39 stated it could reduce the amount of light. 40 41 Commissioner Morita stated the concern about safety it may actually be safer with a dynamic 42 sign as it would be easier to read when passing by the sign. There will be no small type. 43 44 Commissioner Anderson stated she finds those signs easier to read. 45 46